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Re: Rogers Announces Abusive iPhone Rates in Canada

desi — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:28:37 -0000

I hate rogers internet with all the traffic shaping bullshit. Rogers is the first one in Canada to enforce traffic shaping crap. Also Iphone is way expensive down the road with rogers.

Re: Rogers Announces Abusive iPhone Rates in Canada

fbrunel — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:20:16 -0000

Fred, you're right, I was even more conversative. That's a hell lots of money.

The 3 years plan is really abusive. Most carriers propose a 2 year plan.

You also have to add the $200 to get the iPhone itself. Apple shares the price of the device with the carrier. Meaning that you have to pay $400 to Rogers in the fee, but nothing justify those prices.

Re: Rogers Announces Abusive iPhone Rates in Canada

fredfred — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:13:35 -0000

CDN 160 per month * 36 month engagment does roughly CDN 5760 that could be translated to CDN 1920 per year

http://hotchaud.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/cdn-1000-per-year-for-an-iphone-in-canada/

Re: Rogers Announces Abusive iPhone Rates in Canada

fredfred — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:59:21 -0000

I'd like to see how the new canadian mobile licence holders are going to deal with this opportunity, espacially Power Corp.

Mobile data is THE way to expand ARPU but this increase has to be handled with care because it direcly impacts one's monthly expenses on something else : phone data versus weekly magazines or online music for example.

Re: Rogers Announces Abusive iPhone Rates in Canada

Jerome Paradis — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:32:42 -0000

I'm quite sick about all the telcos in Canada.

These Rogers plans for the iPhone are scandalous and disgusting.

Personally, I wanted an iPhone but I'll stick with my Blackberry by principle. I won't encourage Rogers and make them think these rates are a good idea. Because they're not.

I sadly hope that we'll have tons of billing horror stories and that bloggers and traditional media will cover these and put Rogers (and their stock) to shame.

The sad part about Rogers' and other telcos commercial activities is how they are slowing down Canadian technical innovation and entrepreneurship in the mobile space in particular and the telecommunication space in general.

Re: Rogers Announces Abusive iPhone Rates in Canada

Stephane Daury — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:39:21 -0000

Also, if they had a little vision, they would have anticipated the slew of hyper-local services that could have developed with a consumer accessible iPhone (which, let's not fool ourselves, it won't be) and partnered with these to ultimately increase their profits. Greed isn't bad in the eyes of the corporate/publicly-traded company world, but visible greed is. And that's what they're guilty of.

Re: Rogers Announces Abusive iPhone Rates in Canada

Stephane Daury — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:11:35 -0000

With a stock in decline, they just missed an incredible opportunity to change that course. In the end, such greed will actually hurt their shareholders bottom line. That message will be stronger than any online and printed complaints we can come up with.

Re: Rogers Announces Abusive iPhone Rates in Canada

fredfred — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:50:10 -0000

Thanks for doing this awful math.

At the office this morning, we were three mac users ready to go for the iPhone (your demos helped) but nobody is ready yet to buy the Rogers plans.

I strongly feel that they have made the choice to keep their old and profitable BlackBerry addiction (it's RIM, the canadian NOKIA) in the business by making the iPhone almost impossible to buy. If this is true, they have some real poor marketing analysts that deserve to be proven wrong by our beloved brick of fine Cupertino magic.

Re: Rogers Announces Abusive iPhone Rates in Canada

fbrunel — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:03:10 -0000

Rogers don't want (and don't care) to understand. We have the exact same situation we had years ago in France with France Telecom.

And because of telcos regulations, we won't see any serious competition until at least a couple of years.

Re: Rogers Announces Abusive iPhone Rates in Canada

Martin Dufort — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:35:31 -0000

You are totally right. Also given all the forthcoming apps that will be published to the AppStore, you bandwidth consumption will surely be quite high. Unlimited bandwidth enables those application to run without you worrying about data consumption. And it also help the development community really used the iPhone as an Internet device.

Guess is Rogers is not understanding any of this. I think we need to call them and explain what this means beyond greed and profits... Seems the monopoly wins again...